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Free Hosted Analytics Providers that Aren't Google

As mentioned in the GDPR thread Matomo (formally Piwik) is a sensible ( read: open source, self hosted etc.) alternative to Google Analytics.

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Thanks for chiming in. Looking for hosted providers only here. Keen.io may be an alternative. But it’s not as batteries included as many might want. Thanks for bringing up the GDPR thread. This is the first I’d heard of it and @alexandros also links to some GDPR-related discussion on GH above as well.

IPFS? Works perfectly with Hugo as it is static :slight_smile:

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I love the marriage of blockchain tech and privacy. Will take a look into this. Thanks @olafghanizadeh.

I love the sound of that! LOL! Thanks for the link.

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But perhaps not everyone is …

Matomo/Piwik does a hosted version too. But any hosted analytics solution surely presents many of the same privacy problems associated with Google only on a smaller scale.

As far as I know, Russia is accused only of hacking the mail server Hillary Clinton. I have not heard of anyone accusing Russia of hacking static websites. I also want to recall that one of the founders of Google, Sergey Brin, was born in the Soviet Union, and like Donald Trump can also be a Russian spy.

@TotallyInformation @Mikhail

Please keep politics out of the forum or I’ll have to lock this topic.

Thanks!

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Hi @anon94969202, I wasn’t trying to be critical of your suggestion - though it probably came across that way.

I guess the main thrust of what I was saying is that Yandex is a wannabe Google based in Russia. That raises a number of warning bells to me. I may, of course, be totally wrong as I’ve not investigated how their analytics service works.

Hi, I don’t want to sidetrack this into something totally offtopic. I’m happy to talk about this in PM’s or another forum. I also don’t want to get into a tit-for-tat argument about our respective government’s approaches to cyber warfare nor about the politics of why Russia might be a particular focus for such issues right now. However, if you follow any of the government level security services across any EU/US/CAN government, you will see direct references to Russian state-sponsored hacking. Russia are certainly not alone as it would seem - and I do have some knowledge in this area - that ALL capable governments are doing this to some extent.

The key issue is about capability and government enforcement. Some governments are more able to force national organisations to do things than others are. This is the thrust behind recent announcements from EU/US governments regarding Chinese infrastructure equipment manufacturers. It isn’t necessarily that these organisations are doing something bad, it is that they could be forced to do so at any time by their governments.

Bringing this back to focus, the big issue on analytics right now is the EU GDPR law and the responsibilities it places on information providers and handlers. Swapping one potentially problematic analytics service for another of similar type is probably not sensible for anyone doing business or providing information that may be consumed in the EU at this point.

Apologies - also that I replied before reading this. No more from me. Though in my defence, I did try to bring things back on topic.

The first question I’d suggest anyone ask is: Do I need analytics?

A few years ago I removed Google Analytics from the sites I host because I felt it was slowing them down on first load. My customers are happy with a total visitors this year count and all I need are browser usage stats.

Your use case may be different, you may need them, but it’s worth asking because with frameworks like Bootstrap including GA code OOTB I suspect most devs don’t even think about it.

PS @TotallyInformation I don’t think it’s at all unreasonable to point out that Yandex is hardly a less evil company than Google, given that the OP was expressly raising related issues with Google.

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Probably worth mentioning that Matomo (was Piwik) has a cloud hosted version available as well as self-hosting option.

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I did … :wink:

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That is a great question. I pulled GA from my sites (rather Google pulled it for me) when I canceled my account with them not too long ago as a step towards beefing up privacy. Having heat maps for clicks can be very useful for UX as I’ve noticed users tend to click on typos (silly but true). For sites without ads it’s helpful to have a way to track referral link clicks. But all that can be done without Google using something more Spartan.

The more I think about it the more I’m starting to think the answer to “hosted” may rest on what comes of what @olafghanizadeh mentioned with IPFS. As distributed web takes shape with PubSub (already supported with IPFS JS libs it seems) this new tech may completely reshape the way we think about analytics anyway making this whole conversation moot.

Takeaway for me. Leave a feedback button and maybe track page views.

Not mentioned yet but not as useful as it once was unless you’re lucky enough to be grandfathered under a legacy plan is Segment.io. Using Segment you can track all the good stuff in one place and then send it simultaneously to a number of analytics providers, or even an S3 bucket, for further processing. The nice thing about Segment is that it makes integrating with various providers a cinch.

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For me, analytics are useful to track performance, page views and 404’s. Having converted from PHP (WordPress), I’m still seeing lots of accesses to …/index.php which I now redirect to the actual page using Netlify’s excellent redirect capability. I wouldn’t know that those were an ongoing issue without analytics since I don’t get any log files from Netlify.

I don’t really need anything else.

To be honest I think that I am going to turn off analytics from the small projects I manage.

It’s not worth it… serving visitor’s data to 3rd party providers and I hardly ever bother looking at the stats.

If I ever buy a hosting plan again I might go back to AWStats or Server logs.

BTW I’ve looked into IPFS. This project has some big funding from private capital and it is looking into creating a decentralized web that aims to replace the existing WWW.

It’s very ambitious of them and it is far from ready for prime time.

I did the same. I never cared about looking at analytics. I cared about if anyone found any posts interesting and their feedback, but comments are useful for that.

After getting rid of the analytics, my site is so much lighter, and I am also respecting the visitor’s privacy.

This looks like an interesting project. Keep us posted how this implementation goes for you.